ALTERNATIVE SITE OF NOAH’S ARK BELIEVED TO BE ON MOUNT ARARAT
Welcome dear reader to my latest article in which I attempt to share with you information which I have been researching over a period of time and which I find a fascinating subject. I presume because you are taking the time to read this you too are hungry to discover more. I like to receive feedback from you as I am open minded and willing to listen to what people have to say.
This article is written in response to some feedback that I received recently from Christians concerning Noah’s Ark being found on Mount Ararat. Having now read this feedback, I feel that in response to this alternative site, I will be adding this information to our websites.
The following information on the subject of The Search For Noah's Ark has been brought to my attention by a fellow believer in Jesus, who has acquired this information over the past 20 years in his personal research into Biblical related matters. It is presented because historical documentation and modern-day eyewitness testimonies, together with tested wood samples from Noah's Ark, photos and satellite imagery, appear to have the Ark located high atop Mount Ararat.
You will see a brief list of materials for your review and further study on this subject:
As I have said I like to be open minded and even handed when it comes to presenting information which is why in this article I would like to present to you the findings from several different sources in relation to the existence and location of Noah’s Ark.
I am aware of course that people have differing beliefs and I certainly believe that everyone is entitled to their own opinion and to voice that opinion. I like to use the spirit level of Gods Word and I believe that as long as we do that we cannot go far wrong.
Sometimes I receive feedback that is heavily critical of other Christians and I feel that to condemn other believers for their beliefs is wrong as none of us are infallible. Far better to look at the heart of a person who wants to pursue truth and has a passion for God than to be judgmental and harsh in our words just because we believe something to be different to our own views.
I am always a little shocked when I am attacked for my articles and yes I suppose a little upset. I do not like to get involved with arguments and debates on who is right or wrong. I am really interested in just presenting people with evidence and discoveries that do not contradict the Bible. If people are strengthened and encouraged by my articles or even led to Jesus then my aim and purpose has been accomplished as all I want to do is glorify God and do the Lords will.
So, dear reader I will leave it to you to read on and make up your own mind on what you believe, keeping in mind of course that new discoveries are being made all the time as God reveals more to us in these last days.
IN THIS ARTICLE
What is the truth? How did Noah's Ark survive the greatest storm ever? Why did the Titanic sink in the calmest weather ever? Is Global warming real? Where is Noah's Ark? Does it matter where Noah's Ark rested? Does the existence or non existence of Noah's Ark affect a believers’ faith? How can there be two different sites with Noah's Ark? Why have some Christians condemned Ron Wyatt and his claims? What does Henri Nissen say in his book - Noah's’ Ark Uncovered? Sodom and Gomorrah - has it been found? What are the brimstone and sulphur, balls we found? Is the existence or non- existence of the ark a salvation issue? What does the Bible say about judging others? CHRISTIAN TV. What must we do to be sure we are saved?
I would say that to find Noah's Ark would be a wonderful dream come true. But has it been already found? Some say it has and some dispute any claim or new information that points to its present day existence.
Please read on to discover the questions answered in this article
Time and again people of all beliefs have embarked upon journeys far from their homelands, journeys that took them through dangerous terrain, to the highest mountains of Turkey, in search of the remains of one of the most famous biblical stories from ancient days. Noah’s ark has fascinated many as they imagined Noah building the ark day by day, perhaps enduring the ridicule of those who mocked him, who could not understand what he was doing. It was the greatest boat ever built by human hands and yet its construction was divinely inspired. It was built with one purpose in mind – to save the human race!!
The account of the story can be found in the book of Genesis, written by Moses thousands of years ago.
Was Noah a master ship builder – we don’t know, but there is no doubt that the boat that he worked day and night to build, sailed and survived the greatest storm in human history.
Compare it with that other boat made famous by the fact that it didn’t complete its course despite being hailed at the time as ‘the unsinkable ship that even God himself could not sink’. The Titanic set off on its ill fated journey, its maiden voyage carrying 2,228 people on board all confident in the promise that this was the safest ship ever built. "Not even God could sink the Titanic," was the boast of those who put their confidence in a ship built by men.
Sadly 1500 souls perished after the ship collided with a huge iceberg and it instantly took in water as part of the ship was ripped open.
Today we also have the deadly tendency to have excessive pride in our own resources. "As we travel through life we may think who really needs God anyway? I can make it on my own."
"Pride goeth before destruction and a haughty spirit before a fall." Proverbs 16:18.
Pride and wickedness was what our Creator saw as his eyes went to and fro the earth looking for a good man. What had man become? His heart must have been grieving as he surveyed all he had created.
5 And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.
6 And it repented the LORD that he had made man on the earth and it grieved him at his heart.
7 And the LORD said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them.
8 But Noah found grace in the eyes of the LORD. Genesis 6:5- 8
You and I may have destroyed the earth totally if we were God but thankfully our God is a God of mercy and he did not give up on the human race. His love for us is eternal.
Noah’s righteousness and obedience became the vessel that God was able to use to rescue mankind from the evil it had become. He gave mankind the opportunity to start again.
Many have questioned the story of Noah and the Ark. They find it hard to believe and question how a lamb could lay down next to a lion or how a chicken would not be eaten by a fox.
They focus on these things rather than believe that God who was maker of heaven and earth was more than capable of overseeing its continuing existence by taking care of every detail.
"I am the LORD, the God of all mankind. Is anything too hard for me? Jeremiah 32:27.
The story of Noah has been handed down through generations and is the oldest surviving Babylonian story ever found. It was preserved on a clay tablet and written in Semitic language(part of the greater Afroasiatic language family) that was spoken in ancient Mesopotamia.
It is apparently the only story that was documented as history or legend in almost every region on earth. A man named H.S. Bellamy in Moons, Myths and Men believes there are stories of the great flood that were recorded by 500 Flood legends worldwide.
The story of Noah’s ark is more than a legend as we have the evidence of the story imprinted on solid clay cuneiform tablets which confirms that the biblical story of Noah as told in Genesis is indeed fact.
How much more evidence is out there? Some people have had their imaginations fired with a passion to prove its existence and have dreamed of being able to find the ark, to locate the remains of this divine boat, designed by God and built by human hands.
The Apostle Paul wrote ‘Prove all things’ and this involves being open minded to discoveries that emerge and provide wide ranging evidence of the accuracy of Gods Word.
Physical archaeological evidence confirms historical facts, that confirm Biblical history, and adds weight to being able to prove to the world the accuracy of the Bible.
Bible Discoveries are important as they challenge the concept of evolution that is being presented as factual in our schools and accepted by many as scientifically backed up by evidence.
Bible Discoveries also strengthens the believer as Archaeology proves the Bible, helping to provide evidence which in turn shores up faith. Evidence of course is also invaluable as a resource that Christians can use as we witness the good news of Jesus Christ. Skeptics are often moved when presented with evidence that confirms the Bible and it can help them move forward in taking that first step of faith.
EVIDENCE, ACCOUNTS AND EYE WITNESS CLAIMS
FOR YOU TO DECIDE
I will show you the two most popular, heated and debated sites with links and videos to their articles, believed to be the sites and remains of Noah's Ark. However it is down to you to decide which site is the genuine site, or indeed whether it even matters.
NOAH’S ARK – THE DURUPINAR SITE
There is a site on the mountain Durupinar, 20 miles south of Mt. Ararat, believed by some to be the biblical landfall of Noah's Ark, with a boat shaped form about 500 feet long and 160 foot wide at 7000 feet high.
It is believed to be as long as two football fields and 25 miles from the Russian border and first seen and discovered in mid May of 1948 by a local Kurdish shepherd boy named Reshit Sarihan at üzengiliit in Turkey and was also in the Life Magazine in September of 1960 which a good friend Val Smith sent to me.
A Turkish pilot Sevkit Kurtis was said to have taking this photo of the boat shaped formation in 1959.
This boat shaped formation is believed by many to be the famous Noah’s Ark but disputed aggressively by others. It has a numbers of interesting points to consider. Investigated by Ron Wyatt in 1977 with his sons Ronny and Danny after reading the Life Magazine they humbly left their homes traveling far off the beaten track to discover any remains and evidence of the most famous boat in history.
WHAT DO THEY BELIEVE THEY FOUND ON THIS SITE
A boat shaped formation, Huge drogue style anchor stones with anchor holes. Remains associated with Noah and his family. Grave marker showing 8 figures. Carvings that Ron found above the Ark. Petrified deck timber found with radar. Sectioned, it revealed lamination. Metal rivets and brackets found. Rib Timbers Horizontal Deck Support Timbers Deck Support Timbers
WHY DO THEY BELIEVE THAT NOAH’S ARK IS NOT ON MOUNT ARARAT?
Because the Bible states, Noah's Ark LANDED upon the mountains of Ararat." (Gen 8:4 KJV) not Mount Ararat.
The "mountains of Ararat" is plural and therefore means mountainous region. The word translated for Ararat is translated as Armenia later in the book of Isaiah and is usually so referenced.
Note: " upon the mountains of Ararat." Many explorers have looked on Mt. Ararat for the remains of Noah's Ark. The Bible however, does not say that Noah's Ark landed on Mt. Ararat. It says that the Ark landed upon the mountains of Ararat. (mountains plural) An examination of the Hebrew manuscripts of Genesis reveals that actual wordage is that Noah's Ark landed upon the mountains of Urartu. (The whole mountainous region in far eastern Turkey. READ MORE
Evidently in 1977 the Turkish Government officially declared it to be "Noah's Ark" in June 1987 and established the “Noah’s Ark National Park” with a Visitors Centre overlooking the site which can still be visited today.
Here is one of the best websites and video in support of this site of Noah's Ark
ALTERNATIVE SITE OF NOAH’S ARK BELIEVED TO BE ON MOUNT ARARAT
Here is a brief list of materials for your review and further study on this subject:
1) PDF File from out of print book Chapter 11B, which provides the text from item 4 below.
2) Dr. Patton YouTube Link on Noah's Ark Video Presentation.
3) Dr. Patton text & photo summary, taken from the item 2 above YouTube Video. "Dr. Don Patton Discusses The Ark on Mount Ararat" (Jan 24, 2012 email sent to Simon).
4) DVD material published by Group Productions: Ancient Secrets Of The Bible Collectors Series. - Noah's Ark: What Happened To It? - Noah's Ark: Fact Or Fable?
Here is some useful information and photos that back this up.
Excerpted Transcript taken from Dr. Don Patton's video presentation on Noah's Ark
George Hagopian lived at the base of the mountain. When he was 10 and 11 years of age, he traveled up the mountain according to his account, with his uncle, who carried him up to see the Ark. His family and the people he knew were very familiar with Ark being there. He, together with Elfred Lee, produced drawings of what he saw as a youth. This was the view in 1910 as he saw it - very effective in its length to width proportions.
We compare that with another account. This is a drawing of a Russian photograph. Russian aviators in 1917 saw the Ark sticking out of a glacier. The drawing is very similar to George Hagopian's account.
Another account comes from Ed Davis. We know Ed Davis has been up the mountain because of his description of the mountain. Ed saved the life of a son of one of the Cheiftains of the Kurdish village, during WW2. Ed was adopted and was taken up to see the Ark from 100 yards away. By this time, it had broken in two. When we compare the eyewitness accounts, we see they are very similar to each other.
A friend of mine did go up without permits, leaned over the edge of the cliff and took photographs, without being able to look. He emptied the camera, shot all the rolls of film. Not as well-focused as it ought to be, but I think I know what we're looking at here. This certainly justifies the conclusion that there is good evidence that the Ark is there.
Perhaps better evidence comes from Satellite imagery. Unfortunately, it is highly classified. I have been told about it, and we have the coordinates. There is enormous evidence (including photos, wood samples, and satellite imagery, and many eyewitnesses over the centuries that match one another in their description) that one can reasonably conclude, beyond doubt, that the Ark still rests high atop Mt. Ararat.
Guys like (the great artist and scholar) Elfred Lee, the great Randall Price, and the great Dr. John Morris, the great Dr. Walter Brown. These guys have dedicated their entire lives to Noah's Ark!
Here are many links recommended that I would recommend.
1829 Friedrich Parrot, Ph.D. 1969-1987 Elfred Lee, MFA Degree in Art, SEARCH Foundation – Elfred Lee Photos 1971-1989 John Morris, Ph.D. in Geological Engineering, Institute for Creation Research (ICR) President – John Morris Photos 1984-2010 Richard Bright, Ph.D., Commercial Airline Pilot – Richard Bright Photos
Refer also to the work of Balsiger/Priest on this subject. Incredible DVD's
Here is a good you tube video to support this site.
Here are now some other views for you to peruse
Clarke's Commentary on the Bible The mountains of Ararat - that Ararat was a mountain of Armenia is almost universally agreed. What is commonly thought to be the Ararat of the Scriptures has been visited by many travelers, and on it there are several monasteries. For a long time the world has been amused with reports that the remains of the ark were still visible there; but Mr Tournefort, a famous French naturalist, who was on the spot, assures us that nothing of the kind is there to be seen. As there is a great chain of mountains which are called by this name, it is impossible to determine on what part of them the ark rested; but the highest part, called by some the finger mountain, has been fixed on as the most likely place. These things we must leave and they are certainly of very little consequence.
Barnes' Notes on the Bible The ark rested. - It is stranded on some hill in Ararat. This country forms part of Armenia. As the drying wind most probably came from the east or north, it is likely that the ark was drifted toward Asia Minor, and caught land on some hill in the reaches of the Euphrates. It cannot be supposed that it rested on either of the peaks now called Ararat, as Ararat was a country, not a mountain, and these peaks do not seem suitable for the purpose. The seventh month began usually with the new moon nearest the vernal equinox, or the 21st of March. "The tenth month" The waters ceased to prevail on the first of the ninth month. The ark, though grounded six weeks before, was still deep in the waters. The tops of the hills began to appear a month after. The subsiding of the waters seems to have been very slow.
WHAT DO JOSEPHUS AND MARCO POLO SAY?
Both Josephus in about 70 A.D. and Marco Polo about 1300 A.D. mention its existence on the mountain, but their reports are based on others' accounts. Josephus remarks that its remains are on display for all to see without need of an organized exploration.
Sadly for a long time there has been a great battle and debate with certain Christian groups, some who are creation ministries, against the claim's made by Ron Wyatt mostly supported by Seventh Day Adventists & Ron Wyatt Followers including many pastors and Christians in the UK who I know who believe and support some of Ron Wyatt's discoveries.
GLOBAL WARMING This battle reminds me of the scientists who believe in Global warming. Yet certain Christians refuse these claims saying the world has always been the same and there is no Global warming. I believe Man may be blind to the knowledge of our Great God, but I don't believe that man is blind to the bad things we have sown on the earth which have contributed to our climate change. Such as the effect of greenhouse gases (GHGs) like fridges and aerosol cans which were created and emitted by humans. Here are just some facts of Global warming.
National Geographic Society.
Average temperatures have climbed 1.4 degrees Fahrenheit (0.8 degree Celsius) around the world since 1880, much of this in recent decades, according to NASA's Goddard Institute for Space Studies. The rate of warming is increasing. The 20th century's last two decades were the hottest in 400 years and possibly the warmest for several millennia, according to a number of climate studies. And the United Nations' Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) reports that 11 of the past 12 years are among the dozen warmest since 1850.READ MORE
Causes of Global Warming by National Geographic Society.
The IPCC meets every few years to review the latest scientific findings and write a report summarizing all that is known about global warming. Each report represents a consensus, or agreement, among hundreds of leading scientists. One of the first things scientists learned is that there are several greenhouse gases responsible for warming, and humans emit them in a variety of ways. Most come from the combustion of fossil fuels in cars, factories and electricity production. The gas responsible for the most warming is carbon dioxide, also called CO2. Other contributors include methane released from landfills and agriculture (especially from the digestive systems of grazing animals), nitrous oxide from fertilizers, gases used for refrigeration and industrial processes, and the loss of forests that would otherwise store CO2.READ MORE
We have hundreds of leading scientists that believe in Global warming, yet many still argue against the evidence. I believe that time will tell on these things and it is God that we look to for our future.
No matter what man does to save this planet, God has made it clear he will be destroying all old things including the heavens and the earth. So Christians who dispute and argue over these things I believe are pointless.
Whether or not there is Global warming does it matter any longer? In the first mode by the will of God, he destroyed the world with water, and soon it will be a single word, a breath of command from the Creator who will renew the world by fire.
HOW IMPORTANT IS IT TO BE SURE OF THE ARKS RESTING PLACE?
Whether or not Noah's Ark rested on Mt Ararat, or a site on the mountain, of Durupinar does it matter? As Christians we all like to have great tools when we are witnessing to our ‘neighbour’
However, aren't we doing more damage than good to our ‘neighbour’ by shouting at other faiths and not showing love and respect for each others beliefs. My friend once said to me ‘It is no wonder the unbelievers are laughing at the church’.
Many Christians believe the tomb of Jesus to be at the Church of the Holy Sepulchre while other Christians believe the tomb of Jesus to be at the Garden Tomb.
Should Christians condemn each other for what they believe? Does it matter what tomb Jesus was laid in? Does this affect our salvation? NO. There are many good Christians who have never been to the Holy land and some who know nothing about any Tombs of Jesus. Yet there are many born again believers who are saved by their faith, and not by seeing, I admire these type of Christians.
SEVENTH DAY ADVENTISTS
As I have been researching I have come across the fact that Ron Wyatt was a Seventh Day Adventist and it is that fact alone that seems to be a stumbling block where other Christians are concerned. I find it incredible that some people judge him purely on his beliefs rather than on his work.
I have spoken to many Seventh Day Adventists by email who have worked with Ron including Ron Wyatt's widow Mary Nell, in which they have all said to me, that both themselves and Ron himself are and was telling the absolute truth.
I have found them very sincere and helpful and they even sent my friend, Bob Mitchell a Bible teacher, many photos of the Red Sea crossing site which they claim Ron discovered, to use for FREE so he could make a documentary.
When I asked them about this situation and why so many Christians say Ron was not telling the truth, even condemning him on Christian TV, they go silent as if to say let God be the judge. I admire them for their humility and humble attitude.
I believe no-one should point their finger, shout, threaten and condemn any one for what they believe, 12 There is one Lawgiver who is able to save and to destroy. Who are you to judge another? James 4:10 (NKJ)
NOAH’S ARK - IS IT A SALVATION ISSUE?
I personally believe that it grieves the heart of God when we condemn and judge one another especially where we are talking about non-biblical issue. For the LORD is our judge, the LORD is our lawgiver, the LORD is our king; it is he who will save us. Isaiah 33:22. Don't grumble against each other, brothers, or you will be judged. The Judge is standing at the door! James 5:9
Jesus made it clear that we are to love one another. Mathew 22:39 says to ‘Love your neigbour as yourself’. While Proverbs 11:9 says ‘A hypocrite with his mouth destroyeth his neighbour’.
This is precisely what we as Christians do when we condemn people who are dead for what they believe as in Ron’s case over Noah's Ark, a non biblical subject. Just as the verse above states WE destroyeth his neighbour’.
I believe that we should keep an open mind rather then find out that we condemned some one when we could be wrong. Let us be humble and respect what others believe. Is it right to criticize anyone who has a desire to prove Gods word is true? God knows our hearts, Let God be the judge.
Maybe we should listen to Clark's Commentary which states These things we must leave, and they are certainly of very little consequence.
WAS RON WYATTS WORK INFALLIBLE?
For example I have always believed it was Ron who discovered the split rock as told in Exodus 17:6. However after some research it seems it was discovered by Penny and Jim, born again Christians I understand Split Rock Research discovered it first in April of 1992, when they found the split rock in Horeb for the first time. Jim and Penny’s work found them living in the desert for 12 years and they have unearthed an amazing trail of biblical evidence buried beneath the sands. They have amassed a tremendous volume of photographic and video evidence relating to Moses and to the Exodus of the Children of Israel from Egypt. They are involved in both preservation, cataloguing and educational distribution of their discoveries. It is also evident that Penny and Jim have some disagreements with Ron's claims and his discoveries regarding The Red Sea Crossing Site.
Discovered, The Split Rock, as told in Exodus 17:5
However some of Penny and Jim's beliefs regarding the Red Sea crossing site seem to be the same which is also confirmed by Lennart Moller, a top P.H.D Scientist and the author of a book entitled The Exodus Case.
There is also a good film coming out which seems to confirm some of Ron's work to be true, called THE EXODUS CONSPIRACY,Order your copy Now
Research and discoveries by Penny and Jim have proven to be reliable and credit worthy. They travel far and wide revealing the evidence and reliability of the Red Sea of Moses, Crossing Site and Mount Sinai being in Saudi Arabia.
Their comments regarding Ron Wyatt’s work are as follow: When speaking of Ron’s claims, there are many we have no knowledge of. For instance, since we are not involved in the Noah’s Ark project at all, we do not know whether he is correct or not. We stick to the finds we know of, in Saudi Arabia, and because of our 8 years experience there, have come to some differing conclusions than Ron, who only had limited time there in a very small area. We do believe Ron was correct about the golden calf altar; the fact that this mountain in Arabia is Mt. Sinai, that the cave is Elijah’s Cave, that the Israelites encamped out in the valley in front of this mountain. Ron also agreed with us that the split rock we found and shared with him was indeed, the rock Moses struck at Horeb. So, on those points we definitely agree. We also believe that Nuweiba was the point that the Israelites began their sea crossing (of the Gulf of Aqaba), and that the pillars on either side of this point were likely erected later as a memorial to mark the crossing site. So we are in agreement with many things, as you can see. Penny Caldwell – Split Rock Research Foundation.
I also received a email from a Christian, a Professional engineer, B.A.Sc. graduated from the University of Toronto. He wrote to me saying:
Hi Simon, I am enthralled by Penny Caldwell and the Mt. Sinai team of researchers (Dr. Lennart Moller, Bob Cornuke, etc.)No question at all about the Mt. Sinai findings. He stated to me.
I would also recommend a wonderful book called Noah's Ark Uncovered written by Henri Nissen who trained in the Danish school of journalism and has written thousands of articles as well as 7 books. I found this book to be excellent to read. He goes into this subject in great depths and explains the many ark hunters views, who are for and who are against.
Henri Nissen has traveled to the site of Durupinar to research the boat shaped object. His book took him thousands of hours to write and gives detailed information of what he saw at the Durupinar Site and the surrounding area. He also writes of Ron Wyatt.
He talks about the site of Noah's ark on Mount Ararat and George Hagopian that as a child had seen the Ark on Mt. Ararat. Please note that in Hagopian's memory the Ark is nearly square with only slightly rounded edges and includes a box with a row of windows set on top. The dimensions were bigger then those in the Bible as well. Noah's Ark Uncovered, Page 165.
AUSTRALIAN ARCHEOLOGICAL AUTHOR - GRAY
Here are some interesting notes made by Henri in his book, Australian Archeological author Gray has undergone a huge task in collecting information about Ron's discoveries. Henri states that Wyatt did not always publish his evidence and critics have accused him of lying or having very little information. Gray who was originally skeptical of Wyatt's extraordinary find concluded after his research that all of Wyatt's claims were true.
RON WYATTS CREDIBILITY
Henri also mentions about Ron Wyatt credibility. ‘We have to give it to Baumgardner, Lee, and other critics that Ron Wyatt can at times appear less than credible. He jumps to conclusions to quickly and does not always base them on facts but rather on a certain kind of intuition or was it conceit?
Henri Nissen continues to say: Some of his evidence can be easily dismissed either because he was unable to present it or because he had it examined in such a way that doubt could be sown in with the results, he continues to say in his June the 1st 2000 news letter. Bill Fry writes about an old wall in the village Kazan which Ron claimed to have blue-green tiles finished with a painting of the Ark and animals on it. When Bill saw the wall in June of 2000 there were no paintings. Later, in May 2001, he returned and the wall was completely destroyed by the villagers! Bill contacted the authorities and questioned the village heads. They claimed that they took the wall down to be free from visitors. If that is how the locals think then maybe we have an explanation as to why so many things have disappeared or have been destroyed. Later Bill asked one of the village leaders wife's what had happened. She said that at one point precious stones were found in the wall probably Christian Byzantine. He asked if there was any thing else special about the wall. Yes, a few years ago there were some tiles on it, almost blue-green. It’s this type of experience that convinces me that Ron was telling the truth, remarks Bill Fry. Noah's ark uncovered, Page 307.
If this is the case, of the books and films that support and confirm with some of Ron's work to be good and hard evidence of some truth, as it seems to be, then it is clear, then people are wrong in condemning ALL of Ron's work.
This is what I find very sad. There are many people in the world wanting evidence before they make a step of faith. I was one of them. Yet what we find is many have condemned ALL of Ron's work even though it seems clear to me some of his work has been proven by others to be true and to have merit.
I have also received an email from ---ABR, of The Associates for Biblical Research.
He wrote to me saying:
Our conviction at ABR is that any "Bible discoveries" that cannot be shown to be true by other investigators who WANT them to be true - like us - are not at all helpful in reaching atheists and sincere seekers. If those who WANT discoveries to support the Bible check them closely, yet find clear evidence they are not genuine, you can be sure that atheists will use those "evidences" not to get faith in Christ, but to attack it. They will also use it to be even more sure in their own minds that Christianity is a fake.
I expect you will not want to hear this, but the truth is that most, if not all, of the Wyatt claims have been found to be false. The problem is not that we don't understand the claims of Mr. Wyatt, and are just bad-mouthing them. We do understand them; we have researched them; and we have found very good reasons to believe they are not true. If the things Mr. Wyatt reported were real archaeology, other Christians could independently go to those places he talked about, see the same things, and draw the same conclusions. But this has not happened. The evidence is not there for others to find. Sincerely in Christ, ABR
It is my belief that according to what I have researched that clearly some of Wyatt's work has been proven but not all of it.
It is not a single person who has reported problems with confirming Wyatt's discoveries; there are a number of people who have tried to prove the things he wrote about, and were unable to. See, for example, these two links:
So I decided to research one of the links.
When I researched one of the people from the links the Associates for Biblical Research sent me I found that they were Christian Universalists.
Christian Universalism is a school of Christian theology which includes the belief in the doctrine of universal reconciliation, the view that all human beings or all fallen creatures will ultimately be restored to right relationship with God.
This is not one of my personal beliefs but as I have said I do not condemn people for their beliefs.
SODOM AND GOMORRAH
Before I made any judgments, I myself researched one of Ron's discoveries on the claims he made saying he discovered Sodom and Gomorrah by the Dead Sea in Israel. I took a crew down to the most barren territories on this planet and there was no doubt whatsoever in our minds of what we were seeing.
Tons of ash, buildings, shapes and shadows
Double Canaanite Walls
Many types of Sphinx and Ziggurats.
The courses of old streams, walls, dams and weirs with mortar joints
Tons of ash, buildings, shapes and shadows , double Canaanite walls and many types of sphinx and ziggurats. The courses of old streams, walls, dams and weirs with mortar joints, structures lining the banks of streams and strange looking buildings with pointed roofs. The white ashen remains stand out clearly against the backdrop of brown mountains and hills. There is a large fortress-like construction. There is an intact well constructed of the same materials as the fortress walls and embedded in the rock is hundreds of brimstone sulphur (death balls) just as told to us in Genesis 19 v 24. Then the lord rained down burning sulphur on Sodom and Gomorrah.
The brimstone balls we found contained powdered sulphur which is found nowhere else on the planet; sulphur is normally found in crystalline form. I also took the mysterious balls of sulphur to be tested in a UK laboratory, a company called the Intertek Sunbury Technology Centre who were willing to analyse my brimstone samples. I had read of a test showing 98% sulphur but I wished to see for myself. The tests were carried out by a technician named Andy Geatches, an x-ray fluorescence analyst CLICK HERE TO READ THIS BOOK or WATCH THE FILMor order the FREE BOOK and DVD here
We eventually had a meeting with a gentleman named John Price who was team leader of the Senior Technical Consultants. John said that he’d never seen sulphur in this particular form. Normally natural sulphur is found on the sides of volcanoes, where it appears in a crystalline form, yellowish in colour. It would normally have been accompanied by acid rain, which would tend to dissolve it a bit, and would not be found more than 50 miles from the volcanic action. The fact that ours was a pressed powder of such purity was most unusual as was the area in which it was found. I also showed him a piece of shell which had fallen off one of the sulphur balls.
Once again John said that he’d seen nothing like it before. He explained that most sulphur today is refined in chemical plants and never in that form.
Dr Lennart Moller also observes that the sulphur in the balls is quite unlike that which is naturally occurring due to springs and volcanic action. This is usually in bright yellow crystals from forming crusts. Another form is found together with iron sulphide, otherwise known as pyrite. Those powder balls from the Dead Sea area are unique and found no where else! states Dr. Moller,
The burning sulphur ball has melted its way down through the rock. Due to the heat the canal has sealed and with no oxygen there is no further combustion (fire). The mineral close to the sulphur ball is relatively resistant to erosion, and thereby forms a shell. This Photo is from Dr Lennart Moller's book The Exodus Case. Page 40.
Jonathan Grey, also writes on the subject of brimstone. He describes a burn ring around the outside of the ball,
caused by the ball being smothered by the ash. He further considers that the vitrifying of the surrounding ash was due to radiation. On his speaking tours, Mr Grey was often asked why the destruction of the cities could not have been caused by a volcanic eruption. He pointed out that there were no similarities at all. When Pompeii was uncovered the buildings, pictures and mosaics were still to be seen in full colour. Even the population remained, though vitrified and turned to stone. Many cities have been uncovered, but none like Sodom and Gomorrah where all was nothing but ash. Jonathan also claimed that they found a skeleton still containing bone marrow and, with the help of a detector, what they believed was a pot of gold. On being tested in an American laboratory, the samples were pronounced “gold salts”, the by-product of vaporized gold.
A VISIT TO THE BRITISH MUSEUM
I made an appointment to see the curator for Syria and Palestine at the British Museum, a charming man named Jonathan Tubb. He began his career in Syria and Iraq in the 1970s and was Assistant Director at the site of Qadesh on the Orontes. In 1984 he excavated the early Bronze Age site of Tiwal esh-Sharrqi, followed by full excavations at Tell es-Sa’idiyeh, Jordan. The author of many articles and books on Palestinian archaeology, including Canaanites (BMP 1998) he lectures internationally and is at present Chairman of the Palestine Exploration Fund. We took with us a number of items we had recovered from the sites for him to look at. We showed him some pictures taken at Sodom. Jonathan Tubb commented ‘It does look like strange buildings’. He however believed the strange shadows of buildings to be natural formation. Just as Jesus stated, even though he believed the photos to look like strange buildings he was blind to what they truly were.
“Though seeing, they do not see; though hearing, they do not hear or understand Matthew 13:13.
I can put my hand on my heart and say wholeheartedly that what Ron stated about this being Sodom & Gomorrah, I found to be true. It seems I am not the only one who believes that the cities of Sodom & Gomorrah, still remain and can still be seen.
The famous Works of Flavius Josephus - How God overthrew the Sodomites. JOSEPHUS writes the remains of the divine fire, and the traces (or shadows) of five cities are still to be seen. So he confirms that these cities are still there, now to be seen and that they are all burnt up. Moral judgment aside, Josephus Flavius’ accounts have been proved largely accurate.
Yet I find the same believers who say these discoveries are all lies made up to make money from gullible Christians also very often refer to JOSEPHUS as making true, reliable statements confirming the Bible's accounts of history. But they seem to go silent at this statement by Josephus.
I received an email from a person on the 30/12/2010 who had just watched my film, Sodom and Gomorrah on youtube. He wrote saying ‘Not this again, it has been proven false, but still surfaces from time to time. How about a little honesty and integrity on the Creationist part? Is that really too much to ask? He wrote back again saying:
I condemn anything claimed to be without evidence, this is no different there is no evidence that the Bible story regarding Sodom and Gomorrah is true.
His third email said. Your statement of "DON'T CONDEMN IT BELIEVE IT" makes no sense if you're interested in objective truth, only if your only goal is to believe something just because you want it to be true.’ Evidence will always convince me, it's how I determine what's real and not.
Here is clear evidence of a lost soul, looking for evidence of the Bible, to help him take that step of faith to save his soul. But very sadly did not find the evidence which stopped him finding faith in God. He heard the condemnations of these discoveries first. I thank God it was the other way round for me otherwise I may not be here now writing this article but lost in a world of unbelief and skepticism. And like so many who have been misled, on the path to HELL.
Is this why God has supplied so much bible evidence? Truly he is showing us his grace and love to save us? by bringing us to Jesus in repentance. But very sadly, condemned by certain believers.
My wife and I like to watch Christian T.V as it is a great way to get the message of the gospel out to unbelievers as well as providing encouragement for believers. We happened to be watching one day as a Christian Scientist Dr, declared to a viewer that he did not believe in Ron Wyatt’s discoveries. Fine, he is entitled to his opinion however we were shocked when he continued by saying that Ron Wyatt was the Father of Liars and a con man making money out of making films to sell to gullible Christians.
As it was a live show my wife, Emma called into complain as we felt very strongly that this was an unfair accusation. The Dr scientist was adamant that he would swear in court and stand by his own words. I feel that Christians should not be condemnatory of others work and do not always realize the influence that they have. Even worse when these discoveries do not contradict the bible. But prove it.
Our own experience of that was that Emma’s parents, who are not believers, were at one time ready to listen as we witnessed to them. Sadly having heard this man condemn Ron’s work and his discoveries as false they appear to have been influenced just at the point where we thought they were drawing closer, even attending an Alpha Course. Our prayer is that they will once again be open and interested in finding the reality of God but at the present time they do not want to hear and have closed their ears to the saving truth.
I know that many people are blessed by Christian TV and it is helpful but I hope that they think before allowing people to condemn other peoples work publicly as it can cause problems.
I am not saying that Ron was wholly accurate in all his discoveries as I do question his claim that the great rolling stone of Mark 16:4. READ MORE HERE that he believed to be the one that was from the garden tomb was indeed the original article. My understanding is that the stone that he discovered was 24 inches wide and the channel of the tomb is only 15 inches wide therefore making it an impossible fit.
I suppose it would be like putting on a size 9 shoe when you have size 11 feet! The Garden Tomb Association say there is no stone in the ground of the garden tomb that fits the Tomb in the garden as Ron clamed there was. I do not condemn him for that as he believed his stone for the tomb was buried in the ground and it was the radar readings that told him it was 24 inches thick.
However, we are humans and capable of error or failure even though our intentions may be good. I do not believe Ron would have gone to his grave deliberately lying to deceive anyone as some have claimed. I believe that he thoroughly and passionately believed in his work and was devoted to the cause of providing evidence that we the Body Of Christ could use to say to the world, ‘Look this is real and here is the proof’.
Henri Nissen states:
Ron Wyatt actually did make a lot of exciting discoveries and for whatever the reason was a lot of the criticism directed towards him was unfair and exaggerated and was often caused by either jealousy on the part of other Ark- hunters or attempts to defend their own prestige and /or doubtful eye witnesses. Noah's ark uncovered, Page 308.
Ron Wyatt’s work is wide and varied and I believe that he devoted himself to his work passionately with a view to strengthening people’s faith far and wide.
I recently contacted Henri Nissen himself and was encouraged by his open mindedness and also by his non-condemnatory attitude and his recognition of the fact that people are often looking for ‘absolute truths’ when often things are open to interpretation and we will never know the truth is wisdom itself. I agreed with him when he said that people often use ‘strong words’ to denounce or pronounce when actually there is often a bias or an unwillingness to see beyond their beliefs. I also agree with him that Ron was not a fraudster but someone who, like all of us, may have sometimes jumped to conclusions or drawn the wrong conclusion from interpreting discoveries according to his knowledge at the time. This is where as human beings I believe like Henri that we sometimes have to re-think our beliefs as new information comes to light and to do so is a healthier attitude that becoming entrenched and immovable on things and unwilling to listen to others or see a different perspective.
I look forward to reading more of Henri’s work as he is currently writing a book incorporating new discoveries.
Whether any of Ron Wyatt’s discoveries are his or not, true or false, if he was alive today I would thank him for making me aware of things that no one else did at that time and that led my wife Emma and I to becoming born again Christians.
IS THIS A SALVATION ISSUE?
Let all faiths be sure that we are not deceived. Jesus warned us that many would be so let’s be sure that we do not gamble with our souls for our destiny depends on what we believe and that by Jesus’ own words we see that Jesus, was claiming to be God. Jesus spoke these same words - I AM,- in the old Testament and used the same words - I AM, - in the new testament.
I know that some people condemn Ron for his doctrinal beliefs being a Seventh Day Adventist and I have to say that I do not personally believe their doctrines
Jesus, (YESHUA) is not Michael or an Archangel. John 1:1, Genesis 21:33, John 8:58, Romans 9:5, Colossians 1:15, Colossians 1:17, Revelation 19:13, Psalm 90:2, Psalm 93:2, Psalm 102:25, Isaiah 40:28, Jeremiah 10:10,
The Sabbath is not the seal of God. The Holy Spirit is, 2nd Corinthians 1:21-22. Ephesians 1:13-14. Ephesians 4:30, (1 Corinthians 3:16) (Romans 8:11)
No one can stand before God without our mediator Jesus, (YESHUA). Jesus always lives to make intercession for us (Heb. 7:25)
Soul sleep is not biblical, He is God, not of the dead, but of the living; you are quite wrong.” said Jesus. Mark 12:26, 2 Peter 2:9, John 3:18, Luke 16:23, Matthew 11:23, Matthew 10:28 Stated also by Josephus' Discourse to the Greeks concerning Hades and or HIPPOLYTUS OF ROME and THE ENOCH FRAGMENTS.
Let us humble ourselves and be sure of our standing with Gods word and surrender our whole lives to Jesus, for those who believe Jesus, (YESHUA) is God, AND FOLLOW him, he has been away, preparing a place for you, in His Fathers house there are many mansions and one is waiting for you!
Friends lets not put our trust in man, but praying to Jesus alone. It is better to trust in the LORD than to put confidence in man. Psalms 118:8
Friends let us focus on Jesus, he is the one who has saved us while we was sinking in to the depths of hell just as the Titanic sank and will never be raised.
Jesus is the one and only one who will raise us to a new and never ending life. So let’s be sure we believe what is right, and NOT where Noah’s Ark is, BUT who Jesus is and who he claims to be.
PLEASE PRAY WITH ME, Lord Jesus our God, we ask you to break down Satan’s strongholds and to open the eyes of those who do not know the truth of your living word and that ALL Christians will be an example of the love you showed for the world so that we may do the same and obey the second greatest command given by Jesus: Dear friends, let us love one another, for love comes from God. Everyone who loves has been born of God and knows God. Whoever does not love does not know God, because God is love. 1 John 4:7 Amen.
I have not written this article to prove or disprove where Noah’s Ark is but in the hope that Christians will stop and not condemn people for believing in non salvation issues and that we see this behavior causes more damage than good, but instead let’s accept that different is not always wrong and show love and respect our neighbour even if we differ in our beliefs. The only thing we have to shout loud about is that God loved us and sent his son to save us. Hallelujah!
Dear friends do you know the Lord Jesus yet? Time is running out FAST in this evil world. God is always listening, and he will be there for you when you choose to speak to him.
God's there, listening for all who pray, for all who pray and mean it. Psalm 145:18, The Message (MSG) All I ask is that you don’t wait UNTIL IT IS TOO LATE. Watch this Video and Surrender Your Heart To God because He LovesYOU AND WILL SAVE YOUR SOUL.
“The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.” Psalm 53:1
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THE SO CALLED ''MISSING LINKS'' TO EVOLUTION THAT FOOLED THE DUMB SCIENTIST
IF THE BIBLE IS TRUE, THEN WE CAN SEE THE EVIDENCE. IF THE BIBLE IS NOT TRUE, THAN WE WILL NOT FIND ANY EVIDENCE TO PROVE IT. MOST PEOPLE KNOW EVIDENCE PROVES THINGS TO BE TRUE. HAVE WE SEEN ANY EVIDENCE. THAT PROVES THE BIBLE? YES WE CAN STILL SEE 1000'S OF YEARS LATER THE STAGGERING EVIDENCE TO PROVE EVERY STORY OF THE BIBLE.
The many bible discoveries and information on this web site proves the Holy Bible to be forensically accurate and perfectly reliable in every possible way and in every detail truthful concerning the most important events in human history.
The whole purpose of this website is to help bring people to the saving grace of Jesus Christ. Some need evidence, others do not. I hope that the evidence shown on this site helps you make a decision for the Lord.
When we “believe” that Jesus Christ truly died on the cross for our sins and if we believe that Jesus rose from the dead, and follow Him by taking up our cross, you shall be saved.
1 Thessalonians 4:14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him. Luke 9:23 And he said to them all, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross daily, and follow me.
Some need physical proof... well here it is. Some simply believe. The Bible says, “Blessed are those who have not seen, yet hath believed.” Whether you believe what I’ve shared in this website or not, and you have not yet received this free gift of salvation through Jesus Christ our Lord, now is the day. Let today be the day of your salvation!
If you are looking for the evidence of the bible, God or Jesus, here it is. It is time to turn away from our sins, believe and receive salvation, and follow Jesus. Amen.
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Posted: 23/2/2013 10:12 Updated: 23/2/2013 10:13
Re: NOAH'S ARK
Using the 20.6" cubit we get a length of 51.5", a width of 30.9" and a height of 30.9" compared to Ron's rendering from memory of length 51.25", width 30.25" and height 29.5". I work with a tape measure everyday and I could not have come closer than Ron did, now I am assuming Ron did not know about Solomon's gate giving us the 20.6" cubit back then when he saw the ark. Further Ron's ark of the covenant show the cherubim standing at each end as a true shadow picture of the true mercy seat as seen in John 20:11-12 Now Mary stood outside the tomb crying. As she wept, she bent over to look into the tomb and saw two angels in white,N)" seated where Jesus body had been, one at the head and the other at the foot. Most "Jewish" renderings of the ark have these small cherubim on the top of the mercy seat which to me is obviously wrong as this supposed to be the throne seat with 2 crowns on it, crown 1 (Abba) the father, and sitting beside him to the fathers right crown 2 Yehovah who has become our Yeshua (Psalm 118:20-23 and Isaiah 12:1-2 http://www.answering-islam.org/authors/shamoun/yahweh_yeshua.html). I thought I would throw the Yehova/Yeshua thing in just for fun, now I'll add to that fun: Who wrote the 10 commandments with his finger the father or Yeshua? The answer is found with the adulteress woman: John 8:2 amplified: Early in the morning (at dawn), He came back into the temple [court], John 8:5 Now Moses in the law commanded us, that such should be stoned: but what sayest thou? John 8:6 This they said, tempting him, that they might have to accuse him. But Jesus stooped down, and with his finger wrote on the ground, as though he heard them not. John 8:8 And again he stooped down, and wrote on the ground. I believe you have been to the temple court, did you see any sand boxes? I believe the "ground" is solid stone as made by Herod, so the next time you go to the temple court go look where Jesus would have sat down teaching where the scribes and Pharisees brought the woman and see if you can find what Jesus wrote with his finger, I suspect you will find 10 words. My hopes and prayers for you and Emma are that you are well and that you are showing the LORD you love him by keeping his commands as your ticket to health, Deut 12:32 do not add to or take away from his commands (christmas and easter are adding to his commands- see the rest of Deut 12), Happy Purim!!!
Posted: 23/2/2013 10:11 Updated: 23/2/2013 10:14
Re: NOAH'S ARK
Hi Simon, I thought I would throw my 2 cents in with the most important thing being a cubit is 20.6" based on Solomon's gate:
The length of the Ark poses "a fundamental problem with the Biblical account." Presumptions that the cubit of Genesis is 18" is used in some suspect Bible interpretations actually giving the length as 450 feet instead of the 300 cubits of the text. The cubit of Moses was the cubit of Egypt where he was trained. That cubit was brought to Egypt by the descendents of Noah's son Ham. This cubit has been proven at Solomon's gate to be a 20.6" cubit and was used to build the great Pyramid of Giza. This perfectly fits the length of the Durupinar remains and supports the deck area dimensions considering the site's external forces and dynamics.
If you look at the renderings of Ron wyatt's ark of the covenant images and dimensions as found at this link: http://www.google.com/imgres?um=1&hl= ... art=15&ndsp=22&ved=1t:429,i:172&tx=99&ty=60 and then campare it with exodus 25:10 And they shall make an ark of shittim wood: two cubits and a half shall be the length thereof, and a cubit and a half the breadth thereof, and a cubit and a half the height thereof.
Posted: 23/2/2013 5:13 Updated: 23/2/2013 9:54
Re: NOAH'S ARK
Comment from John Locke. God proved me wrong. Ron Wyatt was telling the truth about Noah's Ark. MUST READ. Durupinar is all that is left of Noah's Ark. I did not used to believe this. I did a two year research project to DISPROVE its validity - and God told me I was wrong! I then prayed: "Then, Lord, the wood that was shown on TV recently has to be proved fake, as well as Jim Irwin's claim." Within 3 days, God supernaturally sent me the proof I asked for. The first was proved a fraud. The guy had burned wood then claimed he found it on Ararat. Second: Jim Irwin's wife was on National TV and said: "It was not what they thought." 1. Pre-flood geology was different than now. 2. The Ark landed higher on the mountain, then slid to its final destination, where its side was pierced where it "came to rest" upon the mountains of Ararat. 3. It was and has been exposed to the elements for about 5,000 YEARS. All that is left is its footprint, and the settled remains left in the shape of a ship. What else would you expect after 5,000 years? God in His mercy had to correct me. There is no boat in ice. Glaciers move and destroy everything in their path. Even John Morris' research and expeditions , when the ice had melted back further than it had in years, and he searched the claimed locations, saw nothing then proclaimed: "But it has to be there." No it doesn't.. Though Wyatt may have done some things he shouldn't have, or whatever complaints people have about him, he did important work proving the Bible.
After my research I met David Allen Deal - who did more extensive research of the Duripinar site and wrote a book - It appears his website is no longer there, but I found this article with a bit of his finds: www.noahsarksearch.com
He found multiple gravesites and the remains of homes that the first civilization apparently built. I have his book containing his research, and have communicated with him frequently, but not much in the last few years. Blessings, John. http://jesuslivenetwork.com/
UPDATE ON 23/2/2013 from John Locke.
Hi Simon: Here is some of the evidence and research I promised to send you:
John Morris did tremendous and thorough research on Mount Ararat. But he did NOT find the Ark. It seems conslusively that it is not on Mount Ararat, and Morris did us all a favor by proving that fact. That is because, in my opinion, it landed on the mountain(s) of Ararat then slid downward to its final resting place in Duripinar, where after 5,000 years of exposure to the elements, has left its footprint for all to see. It is important to remember the Bible does not say the Ark landed on Mount Ararat, but "Mountains" (plural) - literally the range of Mountains in Easter Turkey, the Mountains of (ancient) Armenia. Science tells us that civilization began there. Evidence of that civilization has been found by David Allen Deal. See note below:
Here are a few quotes from Impact Newsletter, Institute For Creation Research, 2100 Greenfield Drive, El Cajon, CA 92021:
From No. 116 - Noah's Ark: The Search Goes On by John D. Morris, Ph.D. Under "The Cummings-Irwin Group" page iii - "The Ahora Gorge, without a doubt the most rugged area on the mountain and the site of most earlier investigations, has been ruled out..." "The North Canyon area was carefully checked and found not to contain the Ark." page iv - "...the specific object of their quest, which is in the far reaches of the Ahora Gorge, was studied through a telescope. It was determined not to be the Ark."
From No. 125 - The Search for Noah's Ark: 1983 By John D. Morris, Ph.D. page iii - "...very little snow remained below 14,000 ft. elevation while the glaciers had receded back farther than in anyone's memory. The conditions seemed optimum for a discovery....Despite the favorable conditions, no remains of the Ark were discovered. Those sites thought to be the most likely resting places for the Ark were thoroughly investigated and photographed." page iv - "....The obvious thought has now crossed each explorer's mind - perhaps the remains of the Ark are not really on the mountain at all." Yet the overwhelming evidence remains.3 Something must be up there. But where? Seemingly every possible location has been checked. On the other hand, it may be that our methods are no longer productive."
3. Referenced: Adventure on Ararat, John D. Morris (San Diego: Creation-Life Publishers, 1973) Ark on Ararat, John D. Morris (San Diego: Cration-Life Publishers, 1975). Has Anybody Really Seen Noah's Ark, by Violet Cummings (San Diego: Creation-Life Publishers, 1982).
From No. 231 - The Search For Noah's Ark: Status 1992 by John D. Morris, Ph. D. "...This evidence consists primarily of reports by individuals who claim to have seen the Ark. Unfortunately, none of these accounts have been substantiated by documentation. Thus, all are to some degree questionable, and each should be held lightly."
David Allen Deal added to the research of Ron Wyatt. He visited the Durupinar site multiple times and found evidence of the original civilization, the actual landing place of the Ark wherehe believes the animals dispersed, and more important research. His book is available on amazon.com: http://www.amazon.com/Noahs-Ark-Evide ... evidence+david+allen+deal
Here is his book's description: " THE ARK OF NOAH DISCOVERED IN TURKEY IN 1948 Nearly everyone has been fixated on Mount Ararat as the location of Noah's Ark. The Bible states the Ark came to rest in the "mountains of Urartu" not "Mount Ararat." Seventeen miles south of the Ararat volcano two-thirds of the way up on another mountain approximately 8000 feet in height is a mass of cohesive convincing evidence that the ark landed there on Mount Mashu. Evidence even includes a 538 foot long impression of the ship's hull. Gilgamesh having visited "Mashur" described this place accurately. The city's name "Mesha" ("saved from water") is even mentioned in Genesis 10:30. Noah's Ark was discovered 6200 feet above sea level in mid May of 1948 by a local Kurdish shepherd boy named Reshit Sarihan who lives to this day (Sept. 2000) in the village of Nisir (previously called "Nasar" but changed to "Uzengili`" after the ark was discovered. - One should take note that "Nasar" was the Babylonian name for Noah's city). Heavy rains in May of 1948 combined with three noteworthy earthquakes exposed the ark impression from the collapsing expansive and loose mud that had entrapped it for nearly 2 thousand years revealing the ark impression standing up out of the terrain. In Josephus' time (1st-century A.D.) the Ark of Noah was well-known because he mentions in Antiquities of the Jews that people were still visiting the place and removing pieces of bitumen from the ark for amulets against imagined evils. Many still resist its proper identification. Turkey oddly refuses to let archaeologists excavate to scientifically determine authenticity. You can decide for yourself after reviewing the massive evidence presented in this book. A large number of exciting photographs drawings and inscriptions would seem to verify the author's conclusions." Paperback 195 pages
Posted: 13/7/2012 9:45 Updated: 20/7/2012 16:14
Re: NOAH'S ARK – DOUBTS, DISCOVERIES AND DEBATE
Dear Simon, I went to 2 Bible Colleges in the 1990`s. I asked questions, which were dismissed or unanswered. An example was "Discuss the Arguments for "Higher Criticism". I replied in my essay with half an A4 page pointing out Scripture of Jesus Himself, such as John 5:46-47. I was also told that the Creation took Billions of years & that Genesis & Exodus were allegory & myth. I had to leave because the seed of corruption had not only been sewn but probably fruiting then as now. Fear not, for The Lord is with you. I met Ron Wyatt in Adelaide in the 1990`s & believed him. I have followed his trail & trials since. The Scripture that holds firm my faith regardless of criticism includes Matthew 23:2 to 3. Today's Church leaders are where the Sanhedrin & Pharisees were at. I was a highly trained Nurse versed in Neuro Linguistic Programming & Dr. Paul Ekman`s work. I knew Ron was not lying or puffing himself up. Hold onto your faith & marriage relentlessly because the complainers, I have found are often doing the adversary`s work, knowingly or not or are jealous even of true believers. I pray for them & forgive them as Scripture & Jesus say. Sometimes they are blessed in a way that cannot be just good coincidence, sometimes unfortunately they receive back what they put out. It is in God`s Hands. Hold on, HE is coming soon & HIS rewards will follow & be bestowed on those who unwaveringly stand on the ROCK. Persecution often means you are on the right spot & the adversary`s people, knowingly or not do this. My best regards & blessings to you both,
PS- When working at an Adelaide Psychiatric Hospital I discovered & it was verified by 2 close friends that the senior management were deeply involved in black magic. We each found our cat skinned & nailed to our front doors as warnings. One of the managers left the Hospital employment one day & publically stated he was a High Druid Priest in Adelaide's "Advertiser" newspaper..
Posted: 17/2/2012 17:50 Updated: 18/2/2012 2:47
Re: NOAH'S ARK – DOUBTS, DISCOVERIES AND DEBATE
Re: Noah’s Ark
Firstly may I say that the actual site of the Ark should not be argued over by those who claim to know the Lord. It is enough for us to believe in faith that the account in God’s Holy word is both actual and accurate. It is not a salvation issue.
However, my Son – Michael - and I went to see the proposed site of the Noah’s Ark about 15 Km south of Ararat in June of 2011. We are content that this is the Ark’s resting place for several reasons. The shape clearly resembles a boat. The dimensions are very close to those given in the scriptures (not bad considering it’s 4 thousand yrs. old, though it’s deteriorating as time runs out!) I am happy to accept the findings of Ron Wyatt’s team regarding petrified wood and regular Iron deposits in the shape of the hull of a ship. The biblical account of the Ark landing on the Mountains of Ararat certainly fits the geological site you behold. Correct me if I am wrong but the proposed sightings on top of Ararat always show the Ark in it’s complete shape? However, Gen 8:13 tells us that Noah removed the covering / top of the ark; and this fits with the Wyatt site/shape. I would guess this was done to facilitate a land based accommodation and/or to let in fresh air, and to later build an alter. However, the most obvious reason – as recorded – would seem to be the raven and dove account. If mount Ararat was at that time still the highest peak it would have been impossible for Noah to land there. Noah was in the Ark 370 days (plus seven days before the flood) before getting out. The birds were sent out in the region of the mountains of Ararat whilst the waters were abating (150 days after the flood started). We are then told that after another 73 days the mountain tops are seen (plural). The Dove returned with an olive branch, so clearly plant life had grown and would have been well below the height of Mt. Ararat and its proposed high altitude, and where olives don’t grow! (certainly not now). If the mountain tops were seen after 223 days afloat and they landed on day 313 (90 days later) it is extremely unlikely they could have landed on the top of Ararat, or within its current snowline. Also, have you seen how steep Ararat is? not a safe landing spot. Just a thought. May our Lord guide and direct all who seek him with an honest heart. Keep up the good work Simon.
Posted: 17/2/2012 3:21 Updated: 17/2/2012 3:37
Re: NOAH'S ARK – DOUBTS, DISCOVERIES AND DEBATE
Excellent work, Simon, on the handling of the Noah's Ark material. Very informative presentation. I am glad to be a small part of it! I hope many viewers are as impressed as we are.
Posted: 17/2/2012 3:17 Updated: 17/2/2012 3:38
Re: NOAH'S ARK – DOUBTS, DISCOVERIES AND DEBATE
Hi Simon Hope you are well.
You need to read the signature, it was Rosie who sent you the email, but never the less I want to compliment you for your hard work. I don't always agree with what people publicise but I try to afford them grace, and if I ever do feel the need to challenge them I try to do it in a private, loving way. I agree with you that we bitch and fight on the internet and just give people a reason to say "Christians ... look at the way they behave ... who wants to be a one of them"
Keep pursuing the truth; be encouraged.
I saw the Encounters program in the 90's where the Durupinar site was discovered. David Fasold, a Marine Biologist with no Faith to speak of, a Christian Seismologist, a muslim and a Meteorologist all as a team surveyed the site, and were in harmony that it was genuine. This to me was the most compelling program on the subject.
Posted: 17/2/2012 3:12 Updated: 17/2/2012 3:38
Re: NOAH'S ARK – DOUBTS, DISCOVERIES AND DEBATE
Thanks for this Simon, may Our Lord bless you and your wife for your work. Gerry
Posted: 16/2/2012 13:35 Updated: 17/2/2012 3:38
Re: NOAH'S ARK – DOUBTS, DISCOVERIES AND DEBATE
Great stuff Si.
But Ron Wyatt's widow is not his ex wife unless he divorced her. She is his widow.
But having said that I thought it was an excellent and very well written article. Did you write it? Well done.
Posted: 16/2/2012 13:33 Updated: 17/2/2012 3:39
Re: NOAH'S ARK – DOUBTS, DISCOVERIES AND DEBATE
Well done, Simon! What a fair and balanced article - I read what you had to say with great interest.
Love in JESUS to you both
PS I will pray for Emma's parents.
Posted: 16/2/2012 13:32 Updated: 17/2/2012 3:39
Re: NOAH'S ARK – DOUBTS, DISCOVERIES AND DEBATE
Let me shed a little light. I have been to the Duruprinar site twice. In 2000 and 2002. Not only I have petrified wood from the remains of Noah’s Ark but a few years later, the late prophet Dennis Tinerino prophetically confirmed during a church service and that was “the” location for the remains of Noah’s Ark.
please see the entire prophetic word I received below!
hope this shed some light brother. Dennis was also my friend and one of the greatest and most accurate prophets ever!
God bless you, MIke
Truth springs from the earth, And righteousness looks down from heaven. Psalm 85:11 Barnes' Notes on the Bible:
Truth shall spring out of the earth - As plants do - for this is the meaning of the word. The blessings of truth and righteousness would be like the grass, the shrubs, the flowers, which spring up from the ground - and like the, rain and the sunbeams which come from heaven. Truth would spring up everywhere, and abound in all lands, as plants, and shrubs, and grass spring up all over the earth.
Matthew 27:51 At that moment the curtain of the temple was torn in two from top to bottom. The earth shook and the rocks split.
THE SEAL AT THE GARDEN TOMB. - Matthew 27:65 "Take a guard," Pilate answered. "Go, make the tomb as secure as you know how." 66 So they went and made the tomb secure by putting a seal on the stone and posting the guard.
Matthew 27.33 They came to a place called Golgotha (which means The Place of the Skull).
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